Arguing immigration with a compassionate liberal -or- How to twist your head into a pretzel

Arguing with a liberal about the economic impact of rampant immigration will twist your brain into a pretzel. It inevitably goes something like this:

“Illegal aliens and legal immigrants are taking millions of our jobs.”

“No, they’re not.”

“Then they’re all on welfare.”

“No, they’re not. Even most undocumented workers are productive members of society.”“How are they productive if they’re not taking jobs?”

“Undocumented workers are only taking jobs American’s don’t want.”

“Americans don’t want those jobs because migrant workers have been taking them for so many decades that wages have remained stagnant at a level that only a totally desperate person would work for. That is exactly how they are hurting us by taking jobs. They are not just taking up jobs, but they are keeping wages suppressed because Americans would have to reduce themselves to living like many migrant workers in substandard housing and driving badly broken vehicles in order to stay alive at those wages if they accepted those jobs.”

“Migrants only live at that level because they are forced to.”

“Exactly. They are forced to because the pay for those jobs never goes up because they are willing to live at that level out of desperation if that is what it takes to stay alive, and you’re willing to exploit them.”

“And if migrant workers didn’t do that, you’d have to pay more for all the food you eat. Do you really want to pay more for everything?”

Maintaining a peasant immigrant labor class is what it is really all about

And that, you see, is the bottom line — cheap labor via a peasant class. We don’t want to pay more for everything, so we turn a blind eye to the cheap, illegal labor and keep the peasants coming, regardless of the social costs of maintaining a peasant class.

They are truly peasants, not just because of their living conditions, but because they supposedly have no voting rights (debatable). They have no say in the laws that govern them so live by the rules of another class of people, and they have to keep their heads low to keep from being deported. That means they dare not complain about working conditions either, as Americans most certainly would.

Peasants have to take what they get. That’s why we keep them illegal, and why we just catch and release them, letting them stay here in spite of the fact we know they have no legal right to because we just caught them crossing the border. It all forces them to keep their heads low … until one day they rise enough in numbers that they don’t keep their heads low any longer, and the peasants revolt against their slavish conditions.


What about the compassionate liberal argument for immigrant labor

At this point, the liberal turns to the compassion argument, since the economic argument for immigrant labor leads to ruin. The compassionate argument runs like this, this time started by the liberal:

“You are mean and cruel for wanting to kick a million and a half undocumented workers out of this country.”

“No more mean and cruel than you are for insisting on keeping out the hundreds of millions more people who want in but are kept out because they respect our immigration laws.

“I don’t insist on keeping anyone out.”

“Of course you do. Otherwise, you’d spend all this protest energy trying to get the government to declare open borders to the whole world and let in everyone who wants in so long as they’re not criminals.”

“There wouldn’t be that many that would come in anyway.”

“Eliminate all immigration laws, except those barring criminals, and find out.”

“That is ridiculous. We have to have some reasonable limits because we cannot absorb hundreds of millions all at once.”

“So, you only want to keep out the ones who are respecting the legal process but keep in all the ones that jumped ahead of them in line? I want to kick out 1.5 million or more who jumped ahead in line, but you want to keep out hundreds of millions, and that makes you more compassionate?”

“Yes, it does. We cannot absorb hundreds of millions. It’s ridiculous. I would if we could, but it’s not even possible.”

“So, there is nothing wrong with having immigration laws, but just with enforcing them?”

“Yes, that’s mean and cruel because you are breaking up families.”

“Didn’t they know that was the huge risk they took in breaking the law and coming into the country illegally — that it might be really messy when they’re forced to leave?”

“You’re a racist with no heart.”

“What if I’m of English descent and also don’t want 1.5 million illegal aliens from the UK?”

“You’re English? See, I knew you were racist.”

“What if I just don’t want more people of any color, including my own, because we already have too many people in the US?”

“Why don’t you just leave the country and solve the problem then?”

“Aren’t you the one who promised you would leave if Trump was elected? Why should I just force the problem onto some other nation? You see, at one time, we had a vast land we wanted to occupy in order to keep the Indians from having it all, so bringing in immigrants was the only way to occupy all of it. But I think we’re full, and we can stop now.”

“See, you’re a racist.”

“No, I love Indians and even have some as relatives; but I’ll bet the Indians would have been glad to have a lot fewer migrants, too, starting with the Mayflower. Look, my point is that there was once a lot of land available. Now the land is overstrained. We don’t need more housing developments all over the countryside. Don’t need more congested streets and more auto pollution and more petroleum consumption. Don’t need more landfills filling up faster and more sewage, and we don’t even have enough potable water in the places that want immigrants the most. There is simply no way to bring in millions more people without adding to all those problems because we’re full now. The land simply cannot absorb more without it having a negative impact.”

“That makes no sense. We’d have no economy if we stopped immigration. We have to keep bringing in people so that we have people to build housing for. Building those developments is what keeps the economy perking.”

“So, we need all of our cities to endlessly grow like Mexico city or like California has been doing and never stop increasing the population because that is the only way to sustain a healthy economy? Is that the Californian version of sustainability? California has grown to where it doesn’t even have enough water for all of its people without going to another state to get it. So, doesn’t water, at least, force a point at which you say population growth is enough already? Yet, California wants immigrants more than any state. Where is it going to get the additional water?”

“That is ridiculous. Haven’t you seen that it is raining in California now? They’ve solved this problem. They now need more people in order to drink the water fast enough to keep their reservoirs from overflowing and breaking their damn dams.”

“Maybe they just want to use all those people to fill the holes in the dam and plug the damn leaks.”

“That’s horrible. They want them because they are compassionate.”

“Then why are they so uncompassionate toward the millions of others that they keep out with immigration laws? Maybe they just don’t need all those others to pick their oranges for a penny each and mow their lawns at a nice low price. Maybe they just want enough to keep the price stable and low.”

“That is a racist comment that assumes migrant workers are only good for mowing lawns and picking crops.”

“It’s not me bringing them all in and then paying them poorly for mowing my lawn. I mow my own lawn. Isn’t that the situation you’re keeping all of them in? Why don’t you pay them more so they can live like you in a house right beside you, instead of mow your lawn and then return to their trailer? You know, open the community gates.”

“That is ridiculous. Why is that my responsibility? I pay my gardeners fine. I pay them as much as anyone else does. I cannot help what the economy will bare.”

“Of course you can, because maintaining such a huge supply of immigrant workers, especially the cheaper illegal ones, makes sure the cost of their labor stays low for you.”

And there we are, full circle. It’s all about maintaining a peasant class for the privileged. How else will they enjoy a liberal lifestyle?

Via Great Recession

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The Confessionals: Crossing Paths With Bigfoot

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Astronomer warns: ‘Buckle your seatbelts’ – ‘New development foreshadowed within our solar system’

Back on July 7th, ANP reported that astronomers had warned ‘the hidden world of Planet X may be revealed by the end of summer’ due to ‘dark energy’ within our solar system that might help astronomers discover the exact location of a mysterious ‘Planet Nine’.

As Susan Duclos reported back on April 15th, back in January of 2016, two top astronomers had announced they had found evidence of this mysterious ‘Planet Nine’, a huge icy planet estimated to be ten times more massive than our planet Earth. Susan also reported then, it was quite possible that ‘Planet Nine’ was responsible for several ‘extinction level events’ throughout our planet’s history according to Daniel Whitmire, a Professor of Physics from the University of Louisiana.

A story from the NY Post on this ‘newly discovered Planet Nine’ dropped a bombshell on us that we weren’t quite ready for as excerpted below next photo graphic. However, this story isn’t solely about ‘Planet Nine’ but a new development in outer space that caused planetary astronomer Michele Bannister to recently Tweet“I hope everyone has buckled their seatbelts because the outer solar system just got a lot weirder.”

As this story from New Scientist tells us, a mystery object that goes by the name of “Niku” has just been discovered in outer space beyond the planet Neptune that scientists are unable to explain as it travels in a very strange orbit. Traveling throughout space upon a different plane and in the opposite direction than other planetary objects, astronomers tell us that it must have been knocked off course by something else. We’re also told that this discovery “foreshadows a new development within our solar system”.

What might this discovery be foreshadowing? Let’s go back to the NY Post story on this mysterious ‘Planet Nine’ that we may be learning much more about this summer. Interestingly enough, “Niku” means ‘rebellious’ in Chinese and as I noticed almost immediately, ‘Niku’ also takes the first two letters and the last letter of the mysterious “Nibiru”. Just a coincidence? From the April 2016 NY Post story.:

A mysterious planet that wiped out life on Earth millions of years ago could do it again, according to a top space scientist. And some believe the apocalyptic event could happen as early as this month. 

Planet Nine — a new planet discovered at the edge of the solar system in January — has triggered comet showers that bomb the Earth’s surface, killing all life, says Daniel Whitmire, of the University of Louisiana. 

The astrophysicist says the planet has a 20,000-year orbit around the sun and, at its closest to us, it knocks asteroids and comets toward Earth. 

Whitmire claims Planet Nine’s passage through a rock-laden area called the Kuiper Belt is responsible for the “extinction events.” 

Conspiracy theorists in the ’80s and ’90s previously claimed a red dwarf planet called Nibiru or Nemesis, which orbits too close to Earth every 36,000 years, was behind the events. 

Nemesis or Nibiru was widely dismissed as crackpot pseudo-science — until Planet Nine was identified in January by the California Institute of Technology.

Is this recent discovery of ‘Niku’ another sign that these ‘conspiracy theorists’ who warned of Nibiru/Nemesis were correct afterall? While we’re quite happy that the ‘some believe the apocalyptic event could happen as early as this month’ was way off considering they were talking about April of 2016, we’ve always believed on ANP that we should never put an exact date or time on possible future events that are completely out of our control.

Anybody giving an exact date of a future event such as a comet colliding with our planet is nearly guaranteed to be incorrect. However, that doesn’t mean that Whitmire’s warning doesn’t have merit and he certainly wasn’t the person warning that it could happen as early as this past April. In fact, as we learn more from this New Scientist story, the scientists involved in this latest discovery of ‘Niku’ are also the same scientists who were involved in the discovery of ‘Planet Nine’. Just a coincidence or something more? We think ‘something more’. From the New Scientist story.:

To grasp how truly rebellious it (Niku) is, remember that a flat plane is the signature of a planetary system, as a star-forming gas cloud creates a flat disk of dust and gas around it. 

“Angular momentum forces everything to have that one spin direction all the same way,” says Bannister. “It’s the same thing with a spinning top, every particle is spinning the same direction.” That means anything that doesn’t orbit within the plane of the solar system or spins in the opposite direction must have been knocked off course by something else. 

“It suggests that there’s more going on in the outer solar system than we’re fully aware of,” says Matthew Holman at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, part of the team that discovered Niku using the Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System 1 Survey (Pan-STARRS 1) on Haleakala, Maui. And it’s the unknown that excites astronomers. “Whenever you have some feature that you can’t explain in the outer solar system, it’s immensely exciting because it’s in some sense foreshadowing a new development,” says Konstantin Batygin at the California Institute of Technology.  

He should know – Batygin was one of two astronomers who earlier this year announced that the presence of another highly inclined group of objects could be pointing toward a large undiscovered world, perhaps 10 times as massive as Earth, lurking even further away – the so-called Planet Nine. 

Upon further analysis, the new TNO appears to be part of another group orbiting in a highly inclined plane, so Holman’s team tested to see if their objects could also be attributed to the gravitational pull of Planet Nine. 

It turns out Niku is too close to the solar system to be within the suggested world’s sphere of influence, so there must be another explanation. The team also tried to see if an undiscovered dwarf planet, perhaps similar to Pluto, could supply an explanation, but didn’t have any luck. “We don’t know the answer,” says Holman. 

Bannister couldn’t be more thrilled. “It’s wonderful that it’s so confusing,” she says. “I’m looking forward to seeing what the theoretical analysists do once they get their hands on this one.” 

But Batygin isn’t jumping up and down just yet. “As they say in the paper, what they have right now is a hint,” he says. “If this hint develops into a complete story that would be fantastic.”

What is the ‘complete story’ of ‘Planet Nine’ and this mysterious new object that some are calling a ‘minor planet’ called “Niku” that is hurtling through space with a name that sounds at least a little bit like ‘Nibiru”? The new videos are below, take a look at this latest discovery and what it might mean for us including the first one below from MrBB333 whose report on Niku begins at the 1 minute 30 second mark after he speaks about the latest ‘fire in the sky’ meteorite sightings across America.

In the 2nd video below we hear a brief ‘Niku’ report from the New Scientist Youtube channel while in the final video below, our videographer asks if ‘Niku’ is somehow tied to the mysterious ‘Planet Nine/X’ as it was discovered in the same part of the sky that the astronomers who are looking for ‘Planet Nine’ are now searching.

Is ‘Niku’ somehow tied to ‘Planet Nine’? Please let us know what you think in the comment section below.

Via All News Pipeline

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President Trump gives powerful White House Weekly Address Friday

Trump continues to keep his promises to the American people and so much more

(INTELLIHUB) — In Friday’s White House Weekly Address President Donald Trump was terse and commented mostly on two key pieces of legislation which Trump said will remove burdens on the economy and get people back to work.

House Joint Resolution 38 was one of the pieces Trump signed which the president said, “eliminates an anti-coal regulation previously put forward by unelected bureaucrats.”

“In eliminating this rule I am continuing to keep my promise to the American people to get rid of wasteful regulations.”

The president also showed compassion Friday, for coal miners who’ve been treated “horribly” and vowed that the administration has been working “tirelessly” to turn the situation around “all Americans as part of the deal.”

“We are going to fight for lower energy prices […].”

Another second resolution signed by the president will eliminate a costly regulation imposed on American energy companies by Dodd-Frank, which the president said will save companies “millions and millions of dollars in job killing compliance costs.”

Trump then transitioned into talking about hosting the White House Women’s Business Leaders Roundtable and how such an event will lead to success in many ways.

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Recognizing the full potential of women in the economy 

Trump said that he “campaigned on helping women in the workforce” and maintains that he still intends to “deliver on that promise.”

“As president, I am committed to ensuring that women entrepreneurs have equal access to the capital, market, and networks of support that they need […] and it’s going to happen.”

This week, during a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, “we announced the creation of the Joint United States-Canada Council for Advancement of Women Entrepreneurs and Business Leaders,” which Trump said has got him “very excited.”

Israeli P.M. Netanyahu welcomed to White House

Wednesday, during a scheduled meeting at the White House with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Trump reaffirmed an “unbreakable bond” between the two countries (U.S. and Israel) and said that America will continue to “work with Israel and our allies and our partners for greater security and stability.”

Netanyahu was quoted telling Fox News’ Sean Hannity later that day that the meeting was “historical.”

At times the two leaders looked intense as the two leaders spoke about negotiations and “settlements.”

Shepard Ambellas is an opinion journalist and the founder and editor-in-chief of Intellihub News & Politics (Intellihub.com). Shepard is also known for producing Shade: The Motion Picture (2013) and appearing on Travel Channel’s America Declassified (2013). Shepard is a regular contributor to Infowars. Read more from Shep’s World. Get the Podcast. Follow Shep on Facebook and Twitter.
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